Posts by joey jojo

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January 2025 Letter to the Elders

by blondie in

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i used to send my comments on these letters to atlantis, so i will share them here if that is okay, if not, i'll still do it.

:) 1) medical matters: (technology has arrived) listing of hlc members is not online and updated regularly, but only elders have access, not for general circulation.

(and in case the reader of the letter needs clarification) copies should not be made for publishers or on the information board (!).

joey jojo

The purpose of the HLC has always been confusing to me.

The elders I knew that were on it were some of the most pretentious wanna-be's. The JW's are all about image and public perception but they have managed to find a way, via the HLC to piss off well meaning medical staff and non-witness families with threats of legal action concerning how a JW patient is treated.

It is a great example of how much power and control the organisation has on its members. They have to be involved in the most vulnerable parts of their life.

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Jesus Christ Will Arrive Within The Next Four Minutes! (parody)

by Nathan Natas in

yes, you read that correctly!.

jesus h. christ will arrive within the next four minutes!

in fact, by the time you read this, he may have alreadt arrrived!.

joey jojo

Don’t concern yourself with pesky ‘facts’ from reliable sources

I know right. Experts are the biggest idiots.

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Jesus Christ Will Arrive Within The Next Four Minutes! (parody)

by Nathan Natas in

yes, you read that correctly!.

jesus h. christ will arrive within the next four minutes!

in fact, by the time you read this, he may have alreadt arrrived!.

joey jojo

JESUS H. CHRIST will arrive within the next four minutes! In fact, by the time you read this, he may have alreadt arrrived!

Obviously you mean he must have arrived invisibly because I cant see him. I just know what you say is true because you have used the internet to confirm that you arent a crackpot.

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Why you need Christmas to understand Easter/Memorial

by Anony Mous in

so i went to a christmas evening candlelight service tonight and it hit me.

i was primarily doing christmas since leaving the jw for the children.

lots of people do it for family without really thinking of the relevance.

joey jojo

Why would anyone want to put their future in the hands of a dead guy?

Prove to me that Birrahgnooloo is dead. :)

Also, you might want to do some honest study of the gospel accounts of the resurrection.

Spoiler alert: its made up and full of inconsistencies.

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Two by Twos

by JohnKG in

i've recently discovered this religion that has an uncanny similarity with the jehovah's witnesses.

it's like the watchtower from a parallel universe.

https://youtu.be/1o_vtxbshfa?si=o83zqxrhekvwdtqz.

joey jojo

I know someone who was raised in this religion. At least they allow higher education.

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Why you need Christmas to understand Easter/Memorial

by Anony Mous in

so i went to a christmas evening candlelight service tonight and it hit me.

i was primarily doing christmas since leaving the jw for the children.

lots of people do it for family without really thinking of the relevance.

joey jojo

A lot of people did find these kind of arguments persuasive at the time but they seem to have lost their magic.

I know this is an argument that has been used a lot.

Most likely, everyone who has posted here lives in Christian countries. I havent seen anyone mention Buddha, Kali, Bemba, Warumbe, Yee-Na-Pah or Birrahgnooloo.

This thread is only concerned with Judeo-Christian beliefs, as if every other belief system is irrelevant and doesnt deserve mentioning.

My post wasnt meant to be an attack. It is interesting how believers (of any belief system) have already formed conclusions based on nothing but the influence of their geographical location in most cases. Everyone needs to question their parents beliefs.

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Why you need Christmas to understand Easter/Memorial

by Anony Mous in

so i went to a christmas evening candlelight service tonight and it hit me.

i was primarily doing christmas since leaving the jw for the children.

lots of people do it for family without really thinking of the relevance.

joey jojo

Amazing how most people who are born in christian countries have christian beliefs. Its mind blowing.

Clearly, it must all be true just because of this. I was born in a christian country and I too was raised a christian. I didnt need critical thinking because I was automatically right - just like you guys.

Anyway, all the best for the new year.

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My story of becoming a circuit overseer after Kin Suen visited our congregation.

by ExCircuitOverseer in

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here is my story of becoming a missionary after having kin suen (pronounced “shin”) as my circuit overseer.

my father wanted me to go to college, but since he wasn’t a witness, i knew he just didn’t understand how close we were to the end.

i had actually become a circuit overseer!

joey jojo

I started to realize that I was once just an impressionable kid who was heavily influenced by the adults around me. Adults that were wrong.

And right there is the moral of the story.

Children getting baptised at 11 to impress their parents, who in turn use it to impress others.

Getting advice from elders or their wives about the importance of pioneering, who stopped pioneering years before and have their own businesses.

Elders telling you about the dangers of university and they send all of their own kids there anyway.

If there are any younger ones reading this, remember that just because your parents happen to believe something, it doesn't make it true. You will be the one to pay for your mortgage or rent and put food on your table, no one else. Picture your life 40 years from now. How do you want it to be?

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Reddit thread - ‘Organization Finally Suggesting to Plan for Retirement’

by LongHairGal in

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this information is supposed to be in the upcoming march wt.

(i don’t go on jw dot org).

it would sound like they are hinting at a change in thinking.. in my opinion, any such change would be yet another slap in the face to faithful pimis along with those other recent changes.. there are so many heartfelt responses on that thread and a lot of justified anger.. don’t know what to say except that i’m so glad i never listened to the religion all those years ago.

joey jojo

Our trust in Jehovah’s hand could also be tested as we consider what our situation might be like when we grow older. The Bible encourages us to work hard so that we can care for our future material needs. (Prov. 6:6-11) It is reasonable, as our means allow, to set something aside for the future. Money does provide a measure of protection. (Eccl. 7:12) However, we should avoid making the quest for material things the focus of our life.
5 In some cultures, couples primarily have a family so that the children can provide financial support to the parents when they grow old. In a sense, these couples view their children as a “retirement plan.” The Bible says that parents should care for the needs of their children. (2 Cor. 12:14) Of course, parents may need to receive some practical help as they grow old, and many children are happy to arrange for that. (1 Tim. 5:4) But Christian parents recognize that their greatest joy comes, not from raising children with a view to getting financial support from them, but from helping their children to become servants of Jehovah.—3 John 4.

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Maddison, WI Shool Shooting - 3 Dead

by Sea Breeze in

like the one in tennessee, this one in maddison, wi, was done be a female.

the police chief points out that: .

“yes, i don’t know whether [the shooter] was transgender or not, and quite frankly, i don’t think that’s even important.

joey jojo

Anony Mous@joey jojo: that statement is misleading, the EU does not collect information about gun or most other crime in any centralized manner nor do a lot of other countries. Estimates in studies must use proxies such as whether people are self-reported victims of crime and criminal assault with a weapon is significantly higher in the EU. The most dead in what FBI considers mass shootings (note EU does not have a definition of statistics on mass shootings) in the last decade is the EU, because their police nor schools are prepared to deal with gun crime and people with guns cannot stop criminals with guns.
And you should be honest about the consequences as quite a few countries have an equally “high” per capita gun ownership rate as the US, yet you claim there is no proportional gun crime.
Here are just a few outstanding examples of guns in Europe.
November 2015 - FRANCE - Islamist attackers in Paris armed with guns and bombs target the Bataclan music hall, six bars and restaurants, and the perimeter of the Stade de France sports stadium just outside the French capital, killing 130 people - including 90 concertgoers in the Bataclan - and injuring hundreds.

I didnt mention 'proportional gun crime'. This French attack was clearly a terrorist attack. Much different than an average school-kid blasting through a primary school. The E.U has about 0.9 deaths per 100000, the U.S is 4 times that figure.

If you want to compare the U.S. to the poorest, war-torn, or second/ third world countries, then yes, the stats look better, there are quite a few countries with a higher per capita gun death rate. But the U.S still has the highest gun deaths per capita of any advanced country.

I'm not making up these stats, they are there for anyone to see. You can disagree and spin the figures in whatever way makes you feel better.